Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Football Crossover Matchups - Time for Change

I'll get right to the point with this one, folks. This Friday night's Salem/Timberlane has got me thinking...As I see it, either one of two things needs to happen when it comes to football crossover matchups.

Either:

a) Games between schools from different divisions will not count in the standings, won't affect playoff positioning, way the teams are ranked, and the stats from these games won't count towards players career stats. If a game doesn't count, it should be an exhibition game. All exhibition games should be played BEFORE the actual season starts. It is absurd to have a meaningless game thrown into the middle of a team's schedule. It is absurd for a team to play regular season games vs. division oppoents, games that all matter in the standings, and then right in the middle of the season they play a meaningless game. The Salem/Timberlane game is essentially an exhibition game in the middle of the season. What if a key player gets hurt in this game? Both of these teams are contenders in their respective divisions. Coaches in a game like this want to have their team playing well towards the end of the season, and it is a rivalry game so they want to win. But they don't want to risk their starters getting hurt in a game that doesn't count. So what do they do? Coaches should NOT have to make these kinds of decisions. Crossover matchups should be exhibition games played at the beginning of the season, BEFORE any divisional matchup. The regular season will consist of just 8 games, where each team plays each of the 8 teams in their division once each. The two weeks prior to the regular season will consist of crossover matchups that will be exhibition games.

Or:

b) Crossover games WILL count to the standings, playoff seeding, team rankings and towards player's stats. They will be played during the REGULAR season, whether that be week 1, week 5 or week 9. This way, teams could play rivalry games, like Salem/Timberlane, Dover/Portsmouth, Souhegan/Plymouth, etc. and actually have them count. If this were to happen, the Heal Points System would have to be in place. (For clairifications on the Heal Points System, refer to my post on here about it). The regular season will be 10 games. You play each team in your division once each. As for the other two games, one will be home, on will be away. And they will be against teams from other divisions, will count in the standings. And the Heal Point System will be used to determine the worth of a win such a game.

One of these two things has to happen. The current system does not sit well with me.

Week 1 of the HS football season the past 2 years...I think it's great that we've seen matchups like BG/Pinkerton and Exeter/South. But it is hypocritical that the stats count for the teams and players in these games but they don't count in the standings!

And it also drives me nuts that we have games in the middle of the season like Salem/Timberlane, Concord/Winnacunnet and Laconia/Souhegan. These teams go from playing scrimmages in the preseason to playing games that actually matter vs. division opponents, back to playing games that don't count. It's like the NFL randomly throwing in exhibition games in the middle of a team's season. Except these exhibition games, while they don't count in the standings, they DO count to a player's career stats! It's ridiculous!

15 comments:

  1. One great game for the fans salem/timberlane
    The two best backs in the state put on a show.

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  2. I believe these games do count in tiebreakers.

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  3. Salem didn't show that they were the second best team in the power poll last night. They had to seriously work to beat the number 4-D2 team and #10 Power Poll team by 1 point.

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  4. 8:51

    I totally disagree with your comments this was an absolute trap game for Salem. Coming off two big wins Pinkerton and South and having North next week Salem shook off a very flat first half and really answered the bell in the second half. Don't kid yourself Furey is the real deal. Both Jaques and Furey on a rainy night were huge. Another interesting stat there was only one turnover in the game by Timberlane late in the 4th qtr. It was a heck of a game to watch and at end of the day Salem put up the W. Good teams find ways to win week in and week out..

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  5. Tie-breakers are decided by head to head records, then a team's record vs. other playoff teams. There are other factors that come in to play after that for tiebreakers, but it usually doesn't go further than those first two tiebreakers. So these crossover games are pretty much meaningless in the standings. What do you all think about this issue?

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  6. I would rather see the divisions set up with enough teams to play every week within their own division.

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  7. The problem is if the games counted, teams would try to schedule weaker teams. Why would Pinkerton play Brockton or BG play CM if other teams in their division play someone weaker. The crossover games should count the first week of the season but the games with out of state opponents or the teams filled bye week would not be really fair if they counted.

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  8. I agree Jeremy....cross over games in the middle of the season is just stupid....case in point, Trinity vs Newfound, Trinity by far was the better team no doubt about it, but here inlies the problem. Newfound is in the playoff hunt for the first time in it history. This game at week 6 against Trinity was a joke, what i mean is anything can happen during this time of year when both teams are looking towards the playoffs INJURIES, if this was before the season or week 1 i don't think there would be any problems with this game being played. As the unfortunate happened on Saturday night...Newfound lost a backup guard due to a broken collar bone. Now if the starter goes down in the next week Newfound will be hurting, it's not like they have 60 kids to choses from...they have 39 at tops and the next Guard would be a freshman. It could have gone the other way where Trinity could have lost a key player.....Cross over games mid season just makes no sense.

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  9. I agree about the injuries but there are some good matchups and games. This week Pinkerton vs Brockton. BG vs CM. Great experience for the players. It is tough for coaches to let it all hang out because of injuries. They should do it like college where they play out of conference first couple weeks then get into and stay in their conference schedule. These games do give your program respect and the attitude that they are not afraid to play anyone.

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  10. Regardless if option A or B outlined above is used, uut of state games like Pinkerton/Brockton and BG/CM should be played before regular season and won't count. There's no way of telling how much games against Mass. teams would be worth in the Heal Points System. And if they're not going to count for anything, why put it in week 7 of the schedule when teams are getting ready for the stretch run of the season? Makes no sense.

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  11. The mass teams actually rate higher in the Heal Point then most NH Schools I think.

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  12. Jeremy, it is happening all over the country. The bigger, more successful HS programs travel all over the country to compete. Obviously, NH is not on this level but I think the prevailing attitude is the same...it is great experience for the kids and, in the long run, makes the program better. Last week, St. Johns Prep traveled to MD and X Bros. went to NJ - both won. Good bonding, great experience and good recruiting tapes for those who are trying to play in college. My two cents...

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  13. you go out of state to prove yourself. Pinkerton and BG are the two most talented programs in the state and they want to see how they stack up. I'm glad these games dont cout because it gives BG and Pinkerton nothing to lose going in. It can only be a positive for NH football and teams across the state should support the ones who represent them in interstate games

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  14. Good points made by both of you. However the NH teams playing out of state games do have something to lose - injuries. We would all hate to see a NH player get hurt in a game that doesn't count in the standings. In fact last season when BG played a Mass team, their star QB Andy Vailas was injured, missed the next game against Keene and they lost.

    I'm all for out of state games and non-division games. But like my post at the top of this post says, if they're not going to count in the standings, have them be exhibition games and played at the beginning of the season before all of the division games. Either that, or play the non-division, out of state games any week of the season, but have them count in the standings, based on the Heal Points System.

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