Friday, April 10, 2009

Football Power Poll and Thoughts - Week 6

1. Bishop Guertin…Despite the fact that Dover has a much larger enrollment than BG’s, their roster has 44 players, and BG’s roster has 88. Go figure. The BG coaches told me they expect a battle against Catholic Memorial in two weeks, so maybe they’ll actually be tested then.

2. Salem…They proved that they’re for real over the past two weeks by beating both Pinkerton and South by 2 TD’s or more.
Max Jacques made a convincing case for the Mr. Football Award with his 331 yard performance against the Purple Panthers. The only negative here is that the Blue Devils did give up 238 passing yards, 183 rushing yards and 35 points to Coach Knight’s team.

3. Souhegan…They cemented their place in the top 3 with their 49-6 beating of Portsmouth. They should cruise through the rest of their schedule.

4. Exeter…You could make the argument that South and Pinkerton are better than them, but I can’t put them with two losses above an undefeated Blue Hawk team.

5. Nashua South…Don’t be fooled by the 2 losses in a row, this is a good football team. They have an explosive offense. And while they struggled stopping the run over the past 2 weeks, they’ve been without possibly their best defensive player, LB Demitri Venetos. Nose tackle Michael Brannen was also injured during the Salem game. If they can get healthy watch out.

6. Pinkerton…Another very good team, despite having two losses. The two teams that they lost to are the consensus top 2 in the state. Eric Guinto proved Friday against Londonderry that he’s back to his old self, which is scary news for the rest of D-I.

7. Nashua North…I know South and Pinkerton have 2 losses, but I think they’re slightly better than North, even though they’re undefeated. The Titans have a chance to prove me wrong against the Purple Panthers Friday night.

8. Manchester Central…They seem to be playing better football now. They played so poorly against North, that following that game their season was at a crossroads. They’d either turn it around, or they’d keep going downhill. Give Coach Ray credit, it looks like they’re turning it around.

9. Plymouth…The big Laconia game is here, this Saturday afternoon. At this time next week, there will likely be one team from D-IV in my top 10. Will it be Plymouth or Laconia?

10. Timberlane…While they haven’t beaten any other top 10 teams yet, they also haven’t lost to Dover, Winnacunnet Keene or Alvirne. Until they lose to one of those teams, or any other team they should beat, they have to be considered the 3rd best team in D-II.

42 comments:

  1. Perhaps South and Pinkerton are better than Exeter but they don't play better than Exeter. On paper Exeter would appear to be weaker than many teams but execution and discipline go a long way especially at this level. How many times have the Blue Hawks run off tackle, everyone knows they're going to run off tackle but they still can't be stopped? That o-line might be young and inexperienced now but they're getting better every week and they are some big boys.

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  2. Jman, ca'mon, you could argue souhegan should not be able to get above top 5 with the schedule they play weak in and weak out, you could have an argument that plymouth in d 4000 shouldnt even get ranked, you cannot argue that Exeter was only 1 or 2 that beat South last year 21 - 20, or that they.. beat Central 17 - 7 opening week (central beat south).no argument that Exeter has one of best defenses in state, has Zach kelleher allstate both ways, dylan ryan easily all state again and a beast, you cannot argue they are one of the most fundamentally sound units in the state (watch how they hold there blocks), no arguement they are one of the most disciplined units and one of best coached units in state. Carson Cross, Ben Callahan, efficiently sound, One of the best kickers in the state James Holler 18/18 in PATS...2/2 IN FG'S, 8 touchbacks and consistantly lays it inside the 5 pinning the offenses back all night, a big weapon. Jeremy they may not be flashy or be playing the bombardier west coast offense of that other talented team but you definetly have an argument they should be ranked # 3. All they do is win with fundamental intelligent smash mouth, stop this football !!! They're not running up scores, running they're mouth's ect. Just taking care of bussiness week in and week out. Jeremy I know you need to stay objective but show the love alittle, each week you give more love and reasons that they could of beat exeter to the other teams that lose.tHEY DONT BEAT EXETER CAUSE EXETER IS THE BETTER TEAM. they create all those miscues.Exeter's not the best and a little disshoveled from time to time.....but you can't argue with success !! Great Banter and debate material through out...Thanks for perking me up...keep it up.

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  3. Good points made. Like you said, I try to be objective as possible. I've seen Exeter play all five of their games, and I saw both South and Pinkerton play this past weekend. I think Exeter is betterthan both, but South and Pinkerton would give them a good game and might even beat them.

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  4. Clearly that comment was from someone who hasn't watched Souhegan this year, or any year for that matter. Not even top 5 thanks to their schedule? We're talking about team ability here, not school enrollments and schedules. That school has 890 kids and yet has count 'em EIGHT kids getting serious college interest in the senior class. They can play ball and it's about time they got some of the love from the state that they deserve.

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  5. Souhegan may very well be the best team in the state, but its hard to argue playing soft teams week in and week out hardly puts a strain on them. all i'm saying is its a tougher road to hoe at the higher divisions week in and week out these other teams take a beaten and get back up and do it again. talent is higher and better at the 1 and 2 hole, albeit souhegan plays who they have to play period, just dont see them being so high and mighty in the higher divisions. good team obviously as well as a great program but definetely left open for scrutinization......................

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  6. Souhegan may very well be the best team in the state. The problem is they play no one. Any of the top 9 teams in the poll would have their starters on the bench the same way Souhegan does if they played their schedule. Just like the D1 teams do when they play Concord, West and Memorial. Their is no way you can move them above fifth because they play no one!! They run their spread to perfection they might as well play against the JV s from the D1 schools. (or BG's who should be in D1)

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  7. I think Souhegan could play in a higher division and still post great results. Perhaps a new Thanksgiving Matchup with a DII team , say BG (who does not play on Thanksgiving since Nashua split into two schools), would prove them this year.

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  8. TOJO refuses to play Souhegan, just ask him.

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  9. It is not even worth the cardinals time to play Souhegan. The game would be over by halftime. Congrats Souhegan you can beat on DIII teams and say you WOULD beat better competition. BG talks the talk then backs it up scrimmageing and smoking both south and salem. then dismantling pinkerton.

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  10. They did not smoke Salem in thier scrimmage. I watched that scrimmage. Both teams moved the ball up and down the field on each other. I am sure TOJO would agree it was a very physical scrimmage. 10:03 you should know you can not base much on a scrimmage the third week of August. BG- Salem would be one heck of a football game both offenses are outstanding just look at the points they are putting up on their opponents. One may argue Salem has had a bit of a tougher schedule to this point of the season.

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  11. 10:03, if you're counting scrimmages, Souhegan "smoked" West, Central, Memorial, and Timberlane this summer. Perhaps you should watch Souhegan first before you make unintelligent comments. I have no doubt that Souhegan and Salem would both give BG a great game. Souhegan has crazy talent this year that you really should see for yourself. They made Central look downright foolish (they beat South, etc.).

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  12. Don't ever, ever bring up scrimmages with anyone from Souhegen. You will never hear the end of it!!

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  13. I dont think anyone is really questioning that Souhegan is good. They just do not have to go through the Same grind week in and week out against the best that New Hampshire has to offer, Therefore NO love/respect. Hence: not tired, not injured, NOT TESTED !!. With the exception of Souhegan...d3 and d4 are extremeley weak and most players would not touch the fields of these other programs unfortunately. Skating through their weak schedule does not make them #3.Their is definetely argument they should not be ranked any higher than 5. There's alot more than blowing out non - existant opponents each week that goes into the grind of D1 and D2 that Souhegan does not have to endure but wants the same respect. Its not their fault but it is a FACT. Their the Boise state of prior years go undefeated and dont break the top 10 or the BCS BECAUSE OF ALL FACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED,This year they scheduled better opponents and are getting the love/respect . .Why should Souhegan be any different, Their practices are harder than their games and I'm with other e - mailers.....their are JV programs in the d 1 and d2 programs that would play Souhegan tougher than anyone in 3 or 4. They might be the best in state but they need to be on the same playing level to get respect.No way they should be ranked any higher than 6 in state unless the others above lose weak games or multiple games. Scrimmages !!! you got to be kidding me ??????

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  14. You know what that Boise St. team ended up doing? They absolutely shocked Oklahoma in one of the most exciting college football games of all time.

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  15. (1. Bishop Guertin…Despite the fact that Dover has a much larger enrollment than BG’s, their roster has 44 players, and BG’s roster has 88. Go figure. The BG coaches told me they expect a battle against Catholic Memorial in two weeks, so maybe they’ll actually be tested then.)




    Just shows recruiting pays off. Or are you going to tell me all those guys are there because they love the coach?

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  16. Dover's enrolment is almost 2 times as much as BG's. BG's roster size is exactly 2 times more than Dover's.

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  17. C'mon Jeremy. Call a spade a spade or in this case a recruiting Cardinal a recruiting Cardinal. The people who know what goes on know what's going on at BG. You don't have to candy coat here on this blog. If BG is going to continue recruiting it would be nice to see them man up and compete in D1. Staying in D2 just makes them look like the dad that continues to beat his son in the back yard in football.... like, big deal and who cares.

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  18. Hey Jeremy how bout Milford upsetting Souhegan 23-8 tonight? Bet that score shocks you a little.

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  19. my how the mighty have fallen!lol souhegan!!!!!!

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  20. Milford dominated the line of scrimmage. Ran the ball between the tackles all night long. They also were able to pressure the QB and keep Jellison from any big plays. He still chewed up some yards but they were only able to capitalize on one possession. Quite a upset tonight in Milford.

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  21. Some HUGE games tonight. Alvirne with a big win in overtime over Dover, North over South 56-49. But of course the biggest game is Milford's HUGE upset of Souhegan! What a shocker!

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  22. What do you guys think about my post on football crossover matchups?

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  23. I have one thought on Sour-Heegan:

    They aren't who they thought they were.

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  24. All Souhegan starters we're out with severe flu symptoms..

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  25. let me rephrase, the starting lineman

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  26. wow, Souhegan is the almighty and Jellison is the greatest running back ever and we have to hear them guys crying how sad!

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  27. As so many people have said for so long, the bigger schools are better because they have more depth and can overcome adversity more easily. Case and point, Exeter was missing Starting QB and safety, DE, 2nd string QB and more due to Mono/Flu and while it wasn't pretty at times they beat Keene handily. Way to go Jamie Tyman, you looked like you've been playing all along.

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  28. Reagarding this whole D1 better than D2 discussion. Wow. Look at some facts.
    1) in head to head play so far this year they are tied
    2) in the Power Pole ranked teams v Power pole teams they are tied although D2 outscored D1 in total points
    3) in head to head play where D1 played a D2 team that was ranked the same or higher in their respective divisions, D2 wins 3 - D1 wins 2
    4) In last nights game between Salem (ranked 2 in D1) vs. Timberlane(ranked 4 in D2) Salem was lucky to come out of it with a 1 point win.

    Someone please explain the logic of D1 being so much better than D2. If you look at the schools in both divisions, they are all the Class L schools. It seems that they had to break up the Class L into 2 divisions because there are not enough weeks to play against all of the teams.

    If you really want to settle this, then make a Thanksgiving day game be the Class L championship between D1 and D2 winners.

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  29. Seems to me like there should be som eserious changes in the Power Poll rankings after last night.

    Good Bye Nashua South! Hello Nashua North!

    Salem struggles to beat a D2 team

    Central looses again

    Souhegan looses? I thought that wasn't possible....

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  30. Wasn't the 2009 Souhegan team supposed to be the greatest football team since the 1985-1986 Cicago Bears?

    Or at least the Souhegan fans thought so.

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  31. and I dont want to hear about missing players! souhegan fans shot down portsmouth argument about their missing players last week! The so called #2 running back in the state should be able to carry a team over a not very good milford team! And what about the great QB? Also notice the Coach wasnt doing his usual radio int. on the game this morning!

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  32. Isn't it funny how these thing's have a way of taking care of themselves????. Stay in d3 Souhegan obviously there is zero depth.

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  33. Illness, injury or "other" it's on the Coach (Beliveau) to get his team prepared. That's what Keith Jones did...congrats to Milford for not giving up with all the adversity they have worked through this year.All teams suffer through the same factors as Souhegan each week so stop making excuses before you start.

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  34. D2 and D1 are fairly egual because BG should be in D1. If that was the case it would not as even as you say.

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  35. As a parent at Souhegan, I can tell you that this loss is the best possible result for us. While we did have many injuries on the line and the flu was around, that shouldn't really be an excuse. What really has had me concerned all year is the whole attitude around our program. The whole "we've won before we stepped on the field" attitude, like it's all going to be given to us. Did you know I got an email from Beliveau earlier this week saying only 22 kids showed up for practice one day this week? Can you believe that? Hopefully this serves as a wakeup call for our boys. I really hope this ignites a spark that wasn't there before. I'd love to see us come out of this better than we went in. Milford played a great game and deserved the win, but I still must say that my Sabers were the more talented team. But great Milford coaching (and incredibly toughness and desire on the players' parts), along with this disturbing cocky attitude I've noticed really let this get away. Great job Spartans, and we hope to see you in the playoffs!

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  36. *incredible, not incredibly

    Also, I think it's time to give some credit to our missing SR lineman for our team's success, as without them the "Two-Headed Moster" of Petropulos and Jellison was pretty useless. Colin, Sean, and Matt, please get healthy soon, but don't rush it!

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  37. I think DI should consist of PA,BG,South,Exeter,Timberlane,Central,Winnacunet,and North. Maybe you could toss souheagan in there to so you could see them have a winnless season

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  38. "They made Central look downright foolish (they beat South, etc.)."
    Previous Sour-Heegan blogger

    Well, I believe on Friday, Milford made Sour-Heegan look downright foolish.

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  39. Scrimmage is like NFL pre-season. Coaches are playing lots of different configurations to see who can and can't perform. I wouldn't put that much stock in pre-season games.....

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  40. If you're all so confident that Souhegan can't compete because they had one game where they didn't show up mentally, why don't you play them on Turkey Day? They'd love to show you how they play ball. Trust me, after losing, NOBODY wants to play the Sabers.

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  41. Hey 11:58. I take your word worth a grain of salt. Not because you stupidly state Souhegan would be winless in your proposed DI (they'd be major contenders), but actually because you FORGOT Salem!!!!! Nice slip up, as Winny is CLEARLY much better than Salem, lol

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  42. I'm sorry boys. There is nobody that will come close to touching Bishop Guertin Football this year. You can all fight for the 2nd place scraps because, after watching them dispatch of Catholic Memorial last night the way they did, there is nobody even close to beating them.

    And the Cardinals don't need to do anything fancy. Forget the formidable aerial attack or the efficiency of their option. All Guertin has to do is hand-off the football to any one of their premier (5) running backs and they will break your will by halftime.

    And let's not forget their defense. Getting past the 50 yard line is an accomplishment.

    I love Billy Ball and what he has done in Exeter...but...there is just no way he beats Guertin this year....No way !

    Regular season game in 3 weeks.

    Prediction: BG: 28.....Exeter: 7

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