Thursday, July 23, 2009

Football Power Poll and Thoughts - Week 11

11/9/09
I'm going to do this a little differently this week. I will first post what the actual Power Poll rankings are this week, as voted on by members of WGAM, the Union leader and WMUR (I'm not one of them). Then I will post how I rank the teams, along with my reasoning for why I have each team ranked where I do.

Actual Power Poll:
1. Bishop Guertin
2. Nashua North
3. Salem
4. Exeter
5. Plymouth
6. Souhegan
7. Man. Central
8. Winnacunnet
9. Pinkerton
10. Portsmouth

Now, Here's how I currently have the teams ranked. And let me preface this by saying that this weekend I saw Salem vs. Central, Pinkerton vs. North, and BG vs. Exeter. I also saw Plymouth and Portsmouth last week, and Winnacunnet twice in the past month.

1) Bishop Guertin...The hyped up Exeter battle finally came, and BG showed that no one can touch them this year. Pinkerton, Catholic Memorial, Exeter. No one has even come within 28 points of them. Why is that? Check out my post lower on the page titled, "My Thoughts on the BG/Exeter Game."

2) Nashua North...I know they were playing a Pinkerton team that was without its top offensive player, Eric Guinto, but I was impressed by North on Saturday. Anyone who was there could see how big of a difference Kevin Rosenberg makes for them on defense. The kid is a beast, rushing the quarterback and stopping the run. Jamar Gathright is a beast in the Titans defensive secondary. And North has not lost a game all year when star running back and defensive back Andre Williams has been in the lineup.

3) Manchester Central...How can the voters have Salem ahead of Central, after the Little Green not only beat the Blue Devils Friday night, but they destroyed them, 45-7. Makes no sense. True, Salem has a better overall record on the season. But Central started the year 1-2, but they're a different team than they were then. Chandler is just a sophomore at QB, and it's his first year starting. He didn't even practice with the first stringers until right before the season started. Of course they would start off slow. But Chandler has improved so much over the course of the season, and so has the offensive line and the defense. Plus, Junior Brown has emerged as a budding wideout. And oh by the way, he also didn't play in the beginning of the season when they started out 1-2.

4) Exeter...This was a tough spot for me to pick. It is either Exeter or Salem. Both teams were undefeated before this weekend. Both teams had blowout losses this weekend. But Exeter lost to BG, the team that ahs been the consesnus #1 in the state all year, while Salem lost to Central, a good team but not on BG's level. Also, Exeter's QB Carson Cross was retuning to the lineup for the first time in 5 weeks, and they were without an all-state player, Dylan Ryan on the offensive line. Salem, though they didn't have as much to play for, still had all their starters healthy and playing in their loss to Central. And I'm not just basing it on this past weekend alone. Salem overall, has more quality wins than Exeter, which made it a tough call. But the two common opponents they have are Central and Timberlane. Exeter beat Central by 10 and beat Timberlane by 28, while Salem lost to Central by 38, and only beat Timberlane by one point in OT. And I know, Central was a much different team week 1 vs. Exeter than they are now, but still...

5. Salem...See Exeter

6. Souhegan...This is a much easier selection for me to make than the others. I can't put them above the top 5, but I definitely think they're better than the others below them. They showed that the loss in the regular season to Milford was indeed a fluke. They had their whole roster healthy, and so did Milford. And the Sabres won 37-0, impressive.

7. Plymouth...This was another tough pick for me. It was either Plymouth or Winnacunnet. But Kyle McAuliffe erased any doubts about the status of his injured hand with a big game in the Bobcats semi-final win over Kennett. Plus, Winnacunnet is playing good football right now, but they beat Spaulding. Can you really move a team up in the rankings after they beat Spaulding? I mean, the Warriors go into the playoffs after playing Merrimack and Spaulding, the two worst teams in Division II. Before that, they beat a Timberlane team playing without it's starting QB or top WR. I think they're a good football team. They lost to Dover earlier in the season, but they're a different team now. They impressed me when I sw tem in their win over Alvirne a few weeks ago. But let's not get carried away here. If they can beat Exeter this Saturday, well now that will be a different story.

8. Winnacunnet...See Plymouth

9. Pinkerton...They are still a top 10 team, because even though they've lost two in a row, those two losses were to Central and North, the teams I have ranked 2nd and 3rd in the state. Also, the Astros were without Guinto for both games. Guinto is expected to be back and starting for Pinkerton this weekend in Salem. Because of that, I actually would have them ranked at #7. But even though he's likely back this week I don't know if he will be back 100%. Plus, the Astros will be without their second best running back, and one of their key players on defense on Saturday. Mike Mazzola was thrown out of the game against North, and according to the information I have received, he has been suspended for one game.

10. Portsmouth...The Clippers sneak onto my ballot after a resounding win over Con-Val. Londonderry and Trinity are not far behind. But Portsmouth gets the nod for now. They can put points up with the best of them. They have two wins over playoff teams in the last couple weeks. And they are undefeated this season when their starting QB, Nate Jones is in the lineup.

On the Cusp: Londonderry, Trinity, Laconia

59 comments:

  1. um jeremey im not making excuses on why milford got crushed by souhegan but you said they had thier full roster. that statement is very incorect. Their starting qb suffered a career ending injury during practice 2 days before the game. he tour his hamstring. and their starting running back hurt his ankle early in the first quarter and never returned. again im not saying they would have won but just saying they didn't have there full roster

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  2. 4:48, Milford NEVER throws the ball, ever. All he does is hand it off, thus he is a non-factor. Plus, Theriault (the other QB) was the best offensive player Milford had in that game. Finally, it wouldn't have mattered at all if Ibarra was in the whole game or not because Souhegan's now healthy lineman stuffed EVERYTHING. Milford's best run of the day was a lucky 8 yarder when the ROLB bit on an inside fake. 28 yards rushing TOTAL. What could Ibarra have done? You could have given Milford Mike Alstott and it wouldn't have mattered. To top it off, Souhegan had 3 or 4 potential scoring drives stopped at the Milford 15-20 by questionable refereeing. Milford got mauled by a healthy Sabers line, end of story.

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  3. Trinity football is nasty their going to won it all

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  4. To build off of what 6:09 had to say, the return of Cultrera and Cray to the Sabers' lines really made huge difference, along with a couple of the personelle switches and allowing Comstock to go back to his natural positions at RT and DE. Absolute domination in the trenches. You love to talk about Rosenberg, Jeremy, but Cray and Cultrera may be two of the most dominant lineman in the state.

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  5. How can a DV (D5) team such as Trinity even be mentioned... do you realize how much of a slaughter it would be if they played any of the Top 10 teams on this list?

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  6. The lions tearing apart the christians would've been more competitive than Trinity playing the top ten teams in the state. D5? What a joke. Trinity would get slobberknocked by a real HS football team.

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  7. Trinity would be a playoff team in D-III (I've seen them play), but that's it. Souhegan and Portsmouth are head and shoulders above them.

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  8. Although Trinity's schedule has not been as difficult as others, I've seen them play and I do not believe that they would be slobberknockered as one uneducated reader posted. Trinity has been playing sound fundamental football all year. They have a core of football players who could play and start for any division 1 team and i'm sure that plenty of coaches would kill for a sick athlete with the talent of Connor Lyons

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  9. You don't recall the slaughters Trinity had to endure year after year in D-1 before they were mercifully moved down to JV level football?

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  10. I've seen Connor Lyons, and he's a good back, but he's far from "sick."

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  11. Remember that time Trinity tore up Central in a scrimmage, with all starters in for both teams? I do.

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  12. top 5 bball players from last year

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  13. Trinity does play in a joke division, but it is not the team it was 3 years ago. They have won every game by two touchdowns or more, and most points scored on them are scored against the freshman or JV defense. if they played starters for the entire games they'd be averaging 70 points a game and like 2 allowed.

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  14. We get it, Trinity, thank you. You'd be a 3 seed in DIII, and left out in DII. I'm impressed with the team's improvement, but come on now!

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  15. I've seen Trinity play. If they played any of the top 10 teams in the state you would need the dental records of the Trinity players to identify them after the game because they would be torn apart.

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  16. Pelham finished last season ranked #10 in the Power Poll and I don't recall anyone complaining then. They dominated Division-V in a similar way that Trinity is dominating this year.

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  17. I think the main reason I would like to see BG play Div 1 all year long is the week to week punishment teams at Div 1 have. Sure BG could play well against any team in Div 1, what would happen by the third week and every week after that. Add Exeter this mix as well.

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  18. we all know what happened to souhegan when they were down a few players against an average Milford team. Sure BG has alot of good football players for sure..But it would be interesting to see what would happen week to week.

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  19. how about North blanking Central 24-0 with rosenberg and williams... then losing to salem without them.. do you think that game might be a little different if they played, and how about Pinkerton with their stud RB.

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  20. Rosenberg played in the Salem game he got tossed for fighting in the 4th qtr

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  21. He didn't play in the Central game, though.

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  22. The lesson here people is that in NH HS football, regardless of division, losing even a few star players is devestating as there's just not enough depth of talent in NH period. Take away Rosenberg and Williams, North is gone, take away Souhegan's line, their done, take away Guinto, PA's done, etc. The only team that can really be an exception to this rule is BG because of the tremendous talent they reel in from everywhere (just look at their offensive backfield for evidence). That's why BG is the undisputed number one, because they have quality backing up quality thanks to their ability to get kids from anywhere they want. However, when other teams like the aforementioned (including playoff D1 squads) lose their star players, their just isn't enough quality depth to make up for it. That's why this year's playoffs are such a crap shoot to predict because so many players were injured in the first meetings between many of these teams. Look for more "suprise" scores in the next couple weeks.

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  23. Pelham did not do to D5 what Trinity has been doing. That being said, the people covering every game have been voting Trinity closer and closer to the top ten. You all are basing Trinity on the past few years. If Trinity dominated D1 in the past, why is it so hard to believe they are a good team now.

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  24. Trinity, please. You have one big center on your line that could hold his own, but the rest of the line and backfield would be eaten for lunch against a solid DI/II or even Souhegan's lines. Be happy with the improvement, but your far from state domination. Londonderry and South would have a field day with Trinity.

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  25. You have to laugh about these Trinity people. 3 years ago they were getting their jock straps stuffed down their throats. They move to D5 and do well against inferior competition and want to know why they aren't power poll ranked. They go from yelling, "no mas no mas", to "we are tough stuff." Fine play some real teams, lose 48-0 like you did 3 to 5 years ago and you'll crawl back to your D5 football hole.

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  26. Alvirne over BG this Friday. You heard it here first. Shock the world!

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  27. Look at the schedule last time Trinity was in D1. They lost most if not all games. However, they held their own to a lot of great teams. I believe they held Pinkerton to the least points they would score all year. Like 7:01 said, If they were good once, why can't they be good again?

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  28. Trinity may not be a top 10 team, but people need to stop acting like they are such a joke. They would probably beat every non-playoff team in D1, and maybe Central, given their performance in the preseason. Trinity has the potential to win any state title D3 and down. Anyone who doesn't think so has not seen them play.

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  29. Souhegan and Plymouth in DIII/IV would tear Trinity to PIECES. And please, let's not start on DI/II. Trinity, whom I've seen play, would be a playoff team in DIII or DIV, but would never win the championship, or likely even get into the big show because Souhegan, Plymouth, Laconia, and Portsmouth are all better. Beat Central? LOL

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  30. Just stay in D5 Trinity and be quiet.

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  31. Word has it Trinity is moving up to D-IV next year. And with Lyons graduating, we'll see how good they really are...

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  32. Trinity if they come to D-IV good luck with Laconia and Plymouth.

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  33. Trinity, be happy your playing inferior competition, Don't talk like you can play with programs with 10+ state championships..as in Plymouth and Laconia, I would love to see them move up to D-IV considering even next year both the Bobcats and Sachems are rebuilding and still will make Trinity wish they we're still in D-V

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  34. People, this blog is for civil football discussion. Not trash talk.

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  35. Many of Trinity's best players are young. The whole Offensive line is returning, Hughes, Lauderdale, the giant center.

    Oh, and they tooled on Central in the preseason. Granted Central is better, but I'm willing to bet Trinity hasn't gotten worse.

    They're not a top 10 team, but they are better than most people think.

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  36. Jeremy, you're just encouraging those people to keep going! I'm so tired of talking about a nonimportant Trinity team when we should be talking about other more deserving teams. I haven't heard much at all about the intrigue of the D1 playoffs. Why? Well, because Trinity keeps tooting its horn. Let them play even a Souhegan, Laconia, or Plymouth and they'll get tooled on. So tired of the bragging coming out of D5...

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  37. Sorry, Jeremy, i thought you were anonymous 2:04 there!

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  38. Its' widely thought that Trinity would have won D4 this year. And I am not talking about Trinity players and fans.
    This was the first year they did not beat Portsmouth in the preseason, and the starting secondary barely played.
    Souhegan would probably beat them in a pretty good game, and by Souhegan, I mean Jellison.

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  39. i wanna hear what jeremy thinks about trinity

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  40. 4:28, you have no idea what you're talking about. Widely considered by whom might I ask? Plymouth and Laconia are vastly superior teams, and your comments on Souhegan are laughable. Keep on your D5 Trinity blinders, my friend. Souhegan would make Trinity wish they were still in D5. That team has 7 future college football players in its SR class. As someone who has seen Plymouth, Trinity, Laconia, Souhegan, and Portsmouth play, I must say that you must count your lucky stars that you're in D5. A pretty good game with Souhegan? Souhegan's strength is actually its line, which would dominate Trinity's. Jellison the whole team? Are they the Souhegan Jellisons or the Souhegan Sabers? Jellison never gets touched until he's 10 yards downfield thanks to superb blocking, and Souhegan must pass 70% of the time. Clearly, Jellison is not the whole team. In fact, Souhegan got along quite alright without him in the Bedford game. I've seen Trinity play, and am not overly impressed. The only player on that roster that I came away truly impressed with was that big center (number 75 I think?) who plays with a nasty streak. The rest of the team look like just what they are, a D5-quality team reaping the awards of inferior competition after being a perennial dormat in DI. Please, Trinity would struggle for a 3 seed in D-IV...

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  41. And congrats, you played a Portsmouth team in transition close in the preseason. Says a lot...

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  42. The same Portsmouth team Souhegan annihilated. Think twice, post once. That's all for now.

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  43. No, 2:04 PM was not me...I think Trinity is a very good football team. True, D-V isn't that great, but it still had 4 pretty good teams this year in Trinity, Bishop Brady, Bow and Pelham. Trinity has played Bow twice, Bishop Brady once and Pelham once and hammered them all 4 times. How would they do in a higher division? I think they would give Laconia and good game and possibly win, they'd also give Portsmouth a good game but a healthy Portsmouth team would probably win by a TD. Plymouth would probably beat them but not by much. And a healthy Souhegan team would beat them, but it wouldn't be a too big of a blowout. They would also give Londonderry and Nashua South good games.

    To beat Trinity, you have to stop their run and force them to pass. But not one in D-V has been able to do that. They also have a very good defense that is very good at stopping the run. I think this year's Trinity team would definitely hold their own against some of these top 10 schools. Whether they would win is another story.

    They would have to adjust to playing better competition, since all of the teams I mentioned are better than any team they've played all year. You play a D-V schedule all year, and then you have to play someone like Souhegan. It would be too big of a jump for them to make.

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  44. Jeremy, I solidly disagree with you I have seen Trinity play, they really wouldn't beat a Healthy Laconia, Plymouth, Portsmouth or Souhegan team, yes they have a good back that is true, what does he do when he plays better defenses in Plymouth? or Laconia? Souhegan? All with WAY better coaching then D-V teams. Each of the teams I have mentioned would come prepared vs Trinity and shut them down. End of discussion.

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  45. 9:05, read my comment again. I didn't say I thought Trinity would beat any of those teams. I said I think they would give those teams a good game, and POSSIBLY win. Big difference.

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  46. Those teams are just too strong in the trenches for Trinity to get it moving. One big center and 4 other small linemen vs Souhegan or Laconia's fronts that must AVERAGE 250, and are athletic and nasty? No way. I too have seen Trinity play, and there'd be at least a 3 TD difference between them and Souhegan, at least. Trinity vs BG? Comical.

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  47. No one said anything about Trinity vs. BG. The discussion was how Trinity would do against teams like Portsmouth, Lacoinia, Plymouth, Souhegan, Londonderry and Nashua South.

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  48. that's kind of like saying "BG vs. aquinas of florida? comical." no one has ever claimed that trinity would beat BG. it would be pure stupidity to think so. No team in the state can contend with BG but i bet Salem would make it close.

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  49. No, BG would annihilate Salem. Too much speed, it's just scary. Look on the big thread for the season team rankings and you'll see what we're talking about here. As for Trinity, they'd lose handily to every team in the Top 10. Just deal with it.

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  50. why is Trinity even being mentioned here. please. stick to basketball

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  51. Again, no one has claimed Trinity is a top 10 team. But, a team that wins their championship by 36 points deserves recognition.

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  52. D5 Championship for Trinity.

    Big deal - I don't think so.

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  53. Did Trinity graduates that actually went to college take all of your jobs?

    And guess what, Trinity is #10 this week. You can dispute it, make fun of it, talk down about it, or display your ignorance however you like, it's still a fact.

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  54. Sweet comeback 7:32. Bottom line is Trinity cannot beat at least half of the teams in D3&D4 let alone D2. Enjoy your championship, but at the end of the day Trinity is a D5 team and that is where they belong.

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  55. No, 7:32, it was the BG graduates actually...

    Souhegan or Plymouth vs Trinity would be comic relief for me, and despair for you my friend. Hahaha

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