Sunday, November 22, 2009

Unbelievable.

3/16/10
That's the only word I can think of to describe what transpired this evening at Lundholm Gymnasium in the game between Milford and Portsmouth. Milford wins it 60-56 in overtime. Pembroke wins the other semi-final 68-46 over Oyster River. This post contains recaps from both games.

Milford vs. Portsmouth = A Classic

Something Special
Tonight's Milford/Portsmouth game is going to go down as one of the best high school games many people have ever seen in this state. And deservedly so. For the thousands of fans who packed the gym tonight you got a real treat. And if you weren't there, then where the heck where you? The atmosphere was electric, the crowds were greatThis was the game of the year.

Bizarre Occurrence
With 7:20 left in the fourth quarter, and with Portsmouth leading Milford 38-36 play was stopped. The buzzer went off in the middle of play. The smoke alarm was going off, and everyone was forced to evacuate the building. Everyone, including the the players, was left outside in the cold and the game was put on hold for about a half hour. I have never seen something like this at a high school game before. It killed the momentum of the game, too. The third quarter ended with a real flourish. Milford really started to heat up, especially Mitchell who hit a couple of threes in a row. The Spartans ended the quarter on a 9-2 run and their fans were going nuts. Having to stand around out in the cold for 15 minutes definitely had an effect, as both teams were shaky shooting the basketball when play resumed.

Holder vs. DiCesare
These two wing players really brought their "A" game tonight. At one point in the third quarter they were matching each other shot for shot, mano y mano. DiCesare had a three point play followed by a three point shot as part of the Clippers run that put them up 36-27. Then Holder took over and got Milford back in the ballgame. Holder is arguably the best slasher in our state, but he is not known as a great shooter. But tonight he was 3/5 from beyond the arc. All three of them came in the second half and were all crucial shots. DiCesare has now had the two biggest games of his still young career against Milford. He had 26 earlier this season in a Portsmouth victory, and he had 24 tonight. He is a silky smooth player with a nice jumper. He is one of the top sophomores in NH. In addition to scoring, Holder also had some big steals, including two BIG steals in overtime. On one he made the layup on the other end and on the other he got fouled on the layup attempt and made both free throws. Those were the two plays that decided the game on OT. And Holder's threes, layups and a very nice drive-and-dish play to set up Dan Desmarais for a layup led the team to a 3 point lead with 10.5 seconds left...

Big Shot for Nate Jones
That's when Portsmouth's senior point guard Nate Jones drilled a three ball from a couple feet behind the line with 5 seconds left to tie the game and send it to OT. Jones, along with fellow senior Mike Montville, are tow Clippers players who are both 3 sport athletes and both will be the first to tell you that of the 3, basketball is the sport they excel at the least. However, just from playing in so many big games, whether it is in football, baseball or even basketball, you get used to it. That's why Jones had no problem nailing that shot.

Portsmouth Under Pressure
Clearly Jones and Montville are two players aren't fazed by the bright lights. Mike Barton has been here before, he was a starter on last year's championship team. And DiCesare is so cool under pressure you would never guess he's only a sophomore. This is a very good, well coached Portsmouth team. They have nothing to hang their heads about. They left it all out on the floor this evening. And they got beat by a Milford team that was better than them JUST BARELY.

Unsung Hero for Milford
Dan Desmarais gave the Spartans some big minutes, especially in the second half. Desmarais usually doesn't get a ton of minutes, just a couple here or there. But last night he had a big steal late, as well as some big free throws and rebounds. Also, Kyle Nelson was quiet for most of the night but he had two big blocked shots in the fourth quarter.

Mitchell 2 Big 3's
Yes, Holder carried the team in the second half, and yes Desmarais gave them a lift. But one player that can't be overlooked is Mike Mitchell. When Portsmouth was up 36-27 late in the third quarter, Mitchell hit a pair of big three pointers as part of a 9-2 that Milford ended the quarter on. These shots really kept the Spartans in the game, and they re-energized the entire team as well as the fans. The rest of the team picked up their intensity as a result, and on the next play Kevin Cyr dove on the floor for a loose ball and called timeout, sending the Milford faithful into a frenzy with 11.6 seconds left in the third.

You Have to Feel For Barton
Mike Barton plays the game the right way, and he is the heart and soul of the Portsmouth basketball team. He is a good leader on the floor, is the team's best ball handler against defensive pressure and does all of the little things to help them win. That's why it was tough to see Barton get injured and have to leave the game, especially where he's a senior. He came down awkwardly on his anle with 2:15 left in overtime, had to leave the game and did not return. A tough way to end your career, you hate to see that happen to such a good kid.

What If?
Barton and DiCesare are Porrtsmouth's two best players. Barton gets inujured late in the game, and DiCesare was in foul trouble and was forced to sit on the bench at crucial parts of the game.


Pembroke Blows Out Oyster River in Other Semi

This was a very disappointing game. It wasn't disappointing for Pembroke, just in the way that you expected a much closer game. I really thought this game was a tossup. Then add in the fact that Pembroke, who is not a deep team to begin with, was playing without Dalton Cheney who has been suspended from the team and you're thinking that if anything the Bobcats would be a slight favorite. Of course that is definitely not what happened, as Pembroke dismantled Oyster River 68-46.

This game was close in the first quarter, with Oyster River actually leading after one. But it was all Pembroke from there. They were flat out a faster, more skilled basketball team on this day.

Coleton Neely led the way with 22 points, including 13/14 from the foul line. For the most part, Pembroke played the same 5 kids all game, and 2 of them are freshmen. They did not play like freshmen, however. Rene Maher, a 5'7" guard, played like a seasoned veteran and constantly attacked the basket en route to 12 points. And Matt Persons, a 5'11" guard, had 8 points including a big three pointer early in the third quarter when it looked like Oyster River might be building momentum for a possible comeback.

It was a tough game for Oyster River senior point guard Tommy McDonnell. He injured his leg early in the game and was not the same player the rest of the way. Chris Walker and Jack Nadeau made some shots to try and keep them in it. But overall the Bobcats struggled to score the basketball all game.

The problem is that when Oyster River goes on runs, when they score most of their points, it's in transition. It's when they force turnovers and push the ball. But they couldn't play that way against Pembroke, because Pembroke is a faster team. They would have got run out of the gym if they tried to make this game a track meet.

What really stood out to me about this game didn't happen during the game, it happened afterwards. I was talking with Coach Alosa, and just listening to the way the guy talks basketball, and talks strategy I was very impressed. The guy flat out knows the game of basketball, and he knows how to coach.

76 comments:

  1. All i can say is what a gutsy young team Milford is and wow i thought we had it tonight still in shcok and very sad to watch our star go down at the end like that with an ankle injury but no excuses Milford won fair and square and hope they do portsmouth proud and win the whole thing good luck. P.S Jamie Holder doesn't seem to get a lot of press but damn that kid can play. He took Milford on his back tonight and won it for them congrats again.

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  2. WOW,Just watched the clps on channel 9! Neely should send mcdonell a sympathy card!! Those ankles have to be hurtin after that move!

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  3. Great Game by BOTH teams. Portsmouth played solid both offensively and defensively. They didn't miss many shots and did an excellent job of closing up the middle forcing outside shots. Fortunately for Milford, Jamie Holder came alive and hit a few big shots and Dan Desmarais contributed a couple of much needed free-throws. I would say when push came to shove, the spartans found the heart in the final minutes of the 4th quarter and it carried them through overtime. Nice game Portsmouth - you have a lot to be proud of. Great win Milford...now onto the championship

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  4. I do not think anyone will forget the game ever. Clutch shots,big rebounds and a fire drill. That was a classic. Should be neat watching the Spartans play the Spartans.

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  5. I thought for seven dollars avatar was a sick show but tonights game for seven dollars are you kidding me? Really Really?

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  6. Congratulations Milford and best of luck on Saturday.

    Portsmouth, for a bunch of Football players etc whom most don't pick up a basketball until basketball season you guys were a joy to watch.

    Our son has been lucky to be on many great teams in four years at PHS but none has been more pleasurable to watch than this team. Not alot of pure baskball players but great desire, determination and unselfishness. Coach Mulvey and staff,great job.

    Great game by both teams.

    Bob Montville

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  7. Games should be moved across the street to the Whittemore Center. Many fans weren't allowed to watch the first game because there was no room in the gym. For seven bucks I'd like to see both semifinal games Thanks. If the NHIAA can afford the Verizon for hockey, the Whitt should be no problem for hoop, especially when you would draw a lot more people.

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  8. Jim Mulvey should get Coach of the Year by far!!!! What a job he did to keep his team in this game. Took Milford's best punch a few times in the second half, and was right there in the end. Barton doesn't get hurt, this thing goes right down to the wire in overtime as well. Best game I've seen in a long while.

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  9. The best thing about Milford is if Mike O doesn't get good looks, then Jamie and Mikey will pick it up and vice visa. They are the best 3 guards of the state no question. They have the best teamwork. AND THEY'RE JUNIORS! all of them are juniors. Scott M didn't get many looks at all so he couldn't go off behind the arc. I don't think it should have been that close. Milford didn't make the free throws. Milford has to pick it up.

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  10. Anyone else see Mikey Mitchell drawing up the play with 1 minute left in the 4th while murray was outside the huddle? The play didnt come close to working. Whats up with that Dan?

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  11. Awful lot to ask of a 16 year old kid isn't it?

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  12. He trusts his players.. I dont think thats a bad thing? Coach Murray is a coach who loves to be around these kids.. Please don't bash him hes done a great job.

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  13. Jeremy, no preview of the Class L semi's today, like you did for Class I?

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  14. Milford has a great team with a ton of talent. Portsmouth played fantastic but to say Milford has the best 3 guards in the state? They may have the most talent but what I saw last night was many ill advised shots by Milford. If they truly played together, they would have won by 15.

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  15. Umm...just not smart coaching. You cant say anything against that.

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  16. How about a little writeup for the Pembroke blow out of Oyster River??? Milford, Milford, Milford, that's all I hear about on this blog!!! If some Milford fan hadn't set off the fire alarm they would be home waiting for next year!!!

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  17. Milford's record is 1-1 against Portsmouth now. That's .500 in my book. Stop the bragging!!! Top 3 guards in NH, I don't think so!!!

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  18. Are you serious? Milford was on a run the fire alarm was the only thing that saved Portsmouth

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  19. FYI the fire alarm was set off by balloons that were brought by portsmouth fans that information came from Moe the head official. The second thing is all three kids are juniors beating up on seniors so until you come up with three better then your just crying dry tears.

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  20. wow, enough is enough - wake up Milford players and the big mouth parents of these players! listening to all you slam the coach, is disgusting. guess what, your kids have the chance of a lifetime to win a championship game for their school, if they pull together as a team - and that means "under the coach" - not behind his back. you got here as a team together this year with "this coach" - not your travel coach, not your middle school coach, not your big mouth parents. pull it together as a team, grow up, listen, learn, play to each other's strengths and guess what - no one will notice the weakness - JUST PLAY THE GAME THE WAY YOU CAN, USE WHAT YOU'VE ALL BEEN TAUGHT AND WIN, then and only then is when you can accept the compliment of "job well done!"

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  21. come on guys clean it up, we go from talking about a great game to arguing about talent? both teams played great credit to both of them, in the end Milford dug deep and pulled out a gutsy win. Should be another great game saturday.

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  22. The Spartans will win on Saturday....guaranteed!

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  23. How about Holder vs. Neely and Mitchell vs. Maher and Benson vs O'Loughlin? Wow what a great match-up. Difference could be Milfords bench. Big Dan and McCallum could be huge for Milford.

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  24. I have to agree with the people who are bashing Milford coach, he has done a great job. You people who sit there and say Mitchell was writing up the play really have no idea what was going on. Unless you were in the huddle everything you say is speculation. I personally am disgusted with the Milford parents this year. The team is 20-1 and these people want to slam the coach. I am a Milford fan and wish that these parents would get it through their heads that not one kid on Milford is going to play at Kansas, Duke, or Memphis.
    As far as the three best guards, I might agree that they are the best as a group, but as individuals, no way. Give me that freshman kid from Merrimack any day.

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  25. Your not from Milford number one number two dimitri plays on the 15 year old rivals team Olaughlin and Mitchell play on the 17 jayhawks and Holder plays on the elite 17 mass rival team. You might want to know what your talking about before you shoot out garbage.

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  26. you guys are all about these three guys. When only one of them has proved they can play before this year, Mike O. Self proclaimed "big three" by the wonderful parents down in milford too. i even heard that they're 3 of the best to ever play in NH?! are you kidding me? were you guys even in NH when Lutz and Brickley and Bonner and Millard were playing? If you saw these guys play, they look like milford's players x235434653456456. they are in a whole different league. you guys really need to pull your head out from under you and realize they're all exceptional ball players who arent going to any D1 colleges. STOP THINKING THAT YOUR KIDS ARE THE CHOSEN ONES!!!

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  27. probably not D2. Most likely D3 or tech ball or intermural

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  28. Big three was given to them by the press,not the families. We know them as Mikey,Jamie and Mike O'Loughlin. You have no clue what these kids feel about their skills. They play against the best players they can find in the area and sometimes they win,sometimes they lose they never back down from anything. They may all be playing in over 30 leagues 14 years from now but they will look back at this part of their lives with a smile. Not because of the crap that you guys say about them but inspite of it.

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  29. 11:43pm Your post looks sincere but, to be honest, most of the Milford posts here from the inception of this blog are arrogant and off putting. You add a lot of undue pressure on the players for your school by trying to hype them up to much. People don't like the whole "we are the best ever and leaps and bounds better than everyone" attitude. Humility goes along way, maybe try it sometime.

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  30. Jeremy, that was one you should have kept on lockdown. lol

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  31. Haha thats halarious...HeeHaw...OMG

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  32. To even start to compare the 3 guards of Milford to the Trinity team with Brickley Lutz Millard and Bonner....one Trinity is a private school and all those players were from different towns, the amount of talent in Milford with those 3 is rare. Two lets wait till these kids graduate from high school till we compare them to a team of the past not saying they will play the level of college basketball that those 4 did but the Milford players can't be judged until their high school career is over.

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  33. How about we stick to what really matters...There is a championship game
    Saturday! Both teams have done the work necessary to get there. You can call them "over-rated" if you'd like but we all know they didn't get there without hard work and talent. Let the players play, the coaches coach, the official officiate and then we might see a totally different game. How can you not respect the individual talents and the time and energy all these players have put into developing good skills and a solid game. Good luck to both pembroke and Milford

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  34. you guys are all about these three guys. When only one of them has proved they can play before this year, Mike O. Self proclaimed "big three" by the wonderful parents down in milford too. i even heard that they're 3 of the best to ever play in NH?! are you kidding me? were you guys even in NH when Lutz and Brickley and Bonner and Millard were playing? If you saw these guys play, they look like milford's players x235434653456456. they are in a whole different league. you guys really need to pull your head out from under you and realize they're all exceptional ball players who arent going to any D1 colleges. STOP THINKING THAT YOUR KIDS ARE THE CHOSEN ONES!!!

    Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:21:00 PM EDT


    Really? Looks like your the only one who doesn't believe in these kids and for whatever reason are angry with them or their parents for helping them to achieve their highest goals. Now if your child is not having the same sucess that's not our problem its yours and when it comes to playing d1 d2 or d3 anything is possible in the next two years with them and its you the whiners out there that help motivate these kids even more then they already are by saying they will not reach their goals. So for that i say thanks for the help. These kids are only kids just juniors in highschool and have a lot of basketball ahead of them and if they ever listen to some of the folks on this website they would most likely be in the same situation your kid is in and for that i feel sorry for the poor kid or kids you represent. Meanwhile as they juniors with x's on their back the whole season go out and beat teams full of seniors would it be to much for you haters to go out of your way and say nice job from a bunch of juniors that oh by the way they all happen to be really nice kids too.

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  35. Rumor has it that Mikey is not going to play Saturday so that he can focus on coaching the team. In a related move, Coach Dan will be starting at point guard. Please confirm this!

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  36. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3KaAzB_Lt4

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  37. What new Bedford job? And Mikey would be pergfct for it. All I can say is how many high school juniors would have the knowledge to actually be able to draw a play up in 45 seconds and explain it to a group of peers. Not many!!!!!! And be careful, Dan can really shoot the 3 ball and had mad hops!!!!!

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  38. Is there any way Pembroke can win this thing? They seem out-matched in terms of overall talent. The two advantages they have is Alosa, which is a big edge, and Pembroke also has much better seniors. Senior leadership could help in the biggest HS game of these boy's lives to date. If O'Loughlin and Holder score less than 25 points combined Pembroke wins 65-58. If Milford turns the game into a shoot out they win 78-63 and we see an O'Loughlin dunk before it's all over.

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  39. My kid was all state, actually, thank you very much. i push him to strive his best and believe he can do anything. But i dont think he is a lock for D1 ball like you do for your kid. i think he can do it but he has to get a lot bigger and quicker. Possibly D2 or D3 but not counting on him getting full boats to D1 like you big guy. Because the kids that play D1 are the best players in the NATION not just the three best players on their team. I never said they wouldnt achieve their goals. I simply said that D1 ball is for THE BEST HS BASKETBALL PLAYERS IN THE COUNTRY. So lets be realists not hovering parents who think that their kids are the best thing since sliced bread.

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  40. You can post all the U Tube video you want. None of these kids are going to play at a high level DII school. Go to Springfield next week and see what you are competing against. Does it mean they won't play in college, no, but be realistic with your expectations.

    These kids are good players and have done a great job. Let them enjoy their success this year and next year.

    The reason you are getting so much negative feedback is all you do is promote these kids as the next coming of Michael Jordan.

    You keep talking they are Jr.'s and have plenty of time, if D1 and D2 schools are interested in this kids they would be on their radar now, via email, questionnaires, etc.

    If they are not hearing from them now they most likely won't - these recruiters are way ahead of the curve.

    Sit back, enjoy the ride and stop with the talking. Let these kids talent do all the talking.

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  41. On Saturday either team can win....They have both worked hard for the privilege to be in the Championship game in Durham on Saturday! Let's all congratulate them on their hard work and accomplishments. Whatever happens on Saturday...both teams deserve to be congratulated on their seasons. CONGRADULATIONS TO THE SPARTANS of MILFORD and PEMBROKE !!!! BOYS YOUR WORK HAS PAID OFF!

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  42. My son is going right into coaching. lol

    Bedford decided not to renew Coach Kegler's contract. I think this is a very coveted job with the amount of talent that comes trough Bedford. I would guess they could get a very good coach to apply for that job. Just in case Mikey decides to stay in school. lol

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  43. For all the bitching and complaining about the HEAL system, how often do the top four seeds advance to the semi-finals in a tournament, with #'s 1 and 2 moving on to the finals. As far as all the self-promoting and bashing going on, let's not take anything away from ALL the kids on both teams that have worked so hard to get to where they are. It should be a great day on Saturday!

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  44. You keep talking they are Jr.'s and have plenty of time, if D1 and D2 schools are interested in this kids they would be on their radar now, via email, questionnaires, etc.

    Would you like to put your money where your mouth is? I will bet you $5000 dollars that one of the three has had two questionnaires sent to him and had assistant coaches talk to the parent and aau coach last summer during aau tournaments. Both are from two of the top local d2 schools in NH and again that was this past summer. So Mr highly educated basketball genius if you would like to put up than put up if not shut up.

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  45. That's great news. Who are the players and what schools are talking to them?

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  46. Coach Kegler is actually moving to Portugal with his wife this summer, he was offered a teaching and coaching position in an International School. So it will be very interesting to see who gets that job!

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  47. Portugal, nice I love Portugal, well at their women are hott!

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  48. Let's be clear about something. First of all congratulations to Milford on their win over Portsmouth. I have said all year that they were the best team in Class I and should win it all.

    Again, however, let's be clear. Mitchell, O'Loughlin, and Holder are outstanding HS players. But not one of them will play D1 ball unless they enroll at some D1 and walk on as a practice player. If anyone thinks that any of the 3 will play D1 ball they have absolutely lost their mind. Probably only one of the three could be a D1 practice player if you are really objective about it. Maybe an area small college would be a good opportunity for each of the Milford big 3 to continue to compete.

    But D1?? You have got to be kidding me.

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  49. You know what's funny you seem to think you know it all. One of these kids have interest coming from two big d2 school programs already last summer and has two years left of school one being a year of prep and you don't think he has a chance to go D1? You have no idea where his talent level will go in two years you just think you do. And because you know so much about basketball and these three kids why don't you tell us all the things they do on a daily basis when it comes to getting better in basketball. Look like i said earlier you most likely have a kid that isn't going anywhere and it makes you feel better about yourself to try and bring down other kids because of it. How old are you? Bottom line if any three of those kids are reading this garbage from this poster just keep working hard and doing what you do it has payed off so far hasn't it your in the finals as juniors. And as for reaching d1,d2,d3 don't let the morons of the world ever tell you your living in a dream world because the truth is nobody knows what these talented hard working kids will turn into a couple of years from now go Milford.

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  50. I dont think you guys understand how much they love you guys bashing them. Im good friends with all of them and they love it.. Please give them more motivation, its helping Milford. To tell someone that they cannot do anything is someone who lost their mind. You don't know anything about college sports if you are saying that. ALL OF THEM have talked to colleges and prep schools. THE TEAM DOES NOT THINK THEY HAVE IT IN THE BAG!!!! And of course the fans and parents are going to say they are the greatest because to us they are. They give Milford HOPE and has brought the community together. It is soo big the Milford has done this for their school.

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  51. Lets be clear the goal this year is a state title. Lets be clear the goal this year is a state title, lets be clear the goal today is a state title, lets be..
    get the point.

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  52. So things arent as great as we thought in Milford, they are a class of good Juniors for the most part that will have a chance to win two state titles and at least four of them could play college ball at some level while getting a good education. Yep things are just sad in MIlford. That is so sad!

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  53. There is zero chance Milford loses tomorrow.

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  54. It's most likely a pembroke parent coach or player just trying to play down how good the Milford kids are. They are know for that.

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  55. Why would people from Pembroke who have, had and will always have great basketball tradition down Milford? You have a good team in 30 years? I'm glad you are excited about ther game Saturday as I'm sure the Pembroke people are as well, but stop over exaggerating how much people care about your one shining moment. Lets not forget, Pembroke most tournament wins all time, and most championships. Pembroke has nothing to down Milford about as they are not comparable as programs on the whole.

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  56. Mike Mitchell has been suspended for tomorrow's championship game.

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  57. Mike Mitchell is suspended for tomorrow's championship game.

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  58. 9:56 someone care to explain what happened if this is true? That seems like kind of a big deal.

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  59. told a teacher a sentence that I cannot say if I want Jeremy to post this.

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  60. actually he told the class that was giving him crap for being late to class that, teacher took it as it was to her because he said all of you can...
    He was wrong,he knows it,he apologized and will live with it forever.
    Bad choice at a bad time, worse time possible. Nothing to do now but to take your lumps and move on. Thats life,make bad choices and deal with the repercussions.

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  61. If thats really the reason Milford suspended him and did not figure out a better solution for it then shame on shcool they must be a bunch of misfits over there to not see the whole picture the team loses the coach loses the whole town of Milford loses what a crime. I would be willing to bet my life savings that mikey is not a trouble maker in school and is a great kid to have in class and not someone rotating in and out of the office where is the common sense here? Well that will be something mikey will have to live with for the rest of his life and that being said so will clueless staff of Milford.

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  62. I can see that more facts need to be given so that some of our posters can clearly understand what it takes to be one of the 3000 or so players out of everyone who plays high school ball in America who gets a D1 scholarship.

    First of all, this isn't Chicago, NYC, Dallas, Houston, Seattle, Philly, Baltimore, or DC. This is Class I New Hampshire. There are kids that dominate at the top levels in the aforementioned geographic areas that dont get to D1. There are kids who are the leading scorers in their leagues in these areas of the country that go mid major D1 or D2. Many players that start for these teams and play significant roles barely get recruited.

    Take a look at UCONN - a successful program that has fallen on hard times this year. They must hit recruiting hard to fill need areas. This is no disrespect, just a question - do you honestly think they would recruit Mike O'Laughlin (an outstanding HS player)?? The answer is no way - and UCONN didn't even make the NCAA tournament.

    If Mike were 6'7" or 6'8" and really worked on explosive strength, quickness, and defensive game over the next 18 months then maybe so...is he 6'2"? Maybe.

    That's why it is a great thing that New England has so many smaller colleges that compete at a high level. Certainly one of these would be perfect for the big 3 from Milford so they can continue to demonstrate their admirable proficiency for the game

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  63. Thanks for the update 9:30 am by the way Milford won today beating alosa and the seniors of PA all this without Mikey LOL. Nice job everyone especially mike o and of course the MVP of the tourney Jamie Holder without a doubt put the team on his back along with Mike O and won it for them gooooooooooo Milford.

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  64. kyle bailey walked on to uconn...hes a 6'3 g that averaged like 11points a game in class M not a very good example

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  65. And Bailey probably played what? 25 minutes in his career? Did he receive a full scholarship? I doubt it. My example was right on target.

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  66. Bailey tallied 2 minutes all season, in a 32pt win over BU.

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  67. This just in did you happen to catch the latest post from Jeremy about holder he is already getting a serious look from St A's as a junior but as you put it right in this posting.

    First of all, this isn't Chicago, NYC, Dallas, Houston, Seattle, Philly, Baltimore, or DC. This is Class I New Hampshire. There are kids that dominate at the top levels in the aforementioned geographic areas that dont get to D1. There are kids who are the leading scorers in their leagues in these areas of the country that go mid major D1 or D2. Many players that start for these teams and play significant roles barely get recruited.

    So like i said earlier i know you think your some type of basketball guru/genius but you have no clue where these kids will be in a couple of years they are still growing physically and mentally with basketball and their bodies. So again let me repeat myself when i tell you all the kids out there please never listen to any of these fools who most likely have a kid that won't make it or didn't make it most likely because of their parenting issues. The real bottom line is you can acheive the highest possible goals if you are willing to work hard. And lets face it if you asked this moron posting this garbage a year or two years ago what he thought and where he thought someone like Holder would be going he would say nowhere period and if you tried to tell him he would be having offers from St A's as a junior he would have call you an idiot. So my point is clear and proven just go and do what you kids want to do and love and respect the game and you will be happy no matter what happens or who says what. And big concrat's to Jamie and Mike on a great season and good luck next year not that you will need it.

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  68. Sounds like you are posting a little garbage yourself...I've seen St. Anselm play basketball and it is competitive but certainly not anywhere near D1. You are twisting a logical argument because you are a homer. I believe that the three Milford players in question can and will play college ball, but if you think they will play D1 you are delusional.

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  69. jim collins said...

    re:7:47pm d1's can't speak to a prospect other than a hello; they have spoken with a family member. i would be happy to tell you which schools just ask me in person next time we meet.

    Monday, March 22, 2010 10:19:00 PM EDT

    Good morning 4:59 pm how is the basketball guru doing today? So let me get this straight Holder has strong interest from St A's and a couple other d2 schools as a junior and here is Mike O's grandfather talking about D1 schools for mike are we still a bunch of homers or are we just delusional? If so make sure you contact the real people of basketball out there in the world that actually coach these schools and let them all know how much of a homer and how much of a group of delusional people they really are because if it's coming from you the guru of basketball then it has to be true. And last but not least here's a little quiz for you to take. OK ready what if I told you that Holder two years ago and Olaughlin would be getting this attention from these d1 and d2 schools what would you say? Would you call me delusional or a homer? Like i said earlier in my post to all the kids out there don't ever let anyone tell you that you can't do it just work hard and respect the game and good things will come out of it.

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  70. St. A's is an outstanding D2 program, most years nationally ranked. Yes, not close to D1, but for the last few years has been stocked with D1 transfers. So just to get on their roster would be impressive. Forget the games, go to a St. A's practice next Fall and ask yourself if your favorite Class I player could compete there. Its eye opening. Have no doubt Holder and Mike O might get their attention. But anyone that does not think you have to be a stud to play there is just not thinking clearly.

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  71. Usually when a player is being recruited to a Division 1 program it is no secret - there are all kinds of recruiting lists and rankings nationwide to give an idea where a kid stands against his peers and what schools he is looking at.

    So where exactly are the Milford kids that you discussed ranked nation and state wide and what D1 schools in particular are looking at them?

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  72. This is true but the list and rankings systems get their information from the players. If a player is not talking to these rankings systems the information would not be public.

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  73. If you were to Google the phrases "2010 Rivals 150" and "2011 Rivals 150" you would get an approximate list of the basketball players in America that will be headed to D1 colleges to continue their basketball careers as scholarship athletes. Neither list has anyone from New Hampshire or Massachusetts on it except for kids from other areas who play for area prep schools like Winchendon or New Hampton. Obviously more than the top 150 will sign D1, and no list is exact, but I just don't see any NH players on these top lists and there is a reason for that.

    Also, if "a player is not talking to these ranking systems" then that is an issue right there. I am certain that coaches and their staffs in some way use the information that these sites put out - at least as a starting point - and these kids accomplishments against the top competition in the country as well as their HS/prep school leagues gets them onto these lists. Also, I would suspect that even if a player was "talking to the services" but didn't have the numbers to back up being on the list he wouldn't be placed on it.

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  74. but I just don't see any NH players on these top lists and there is a reason for that.

    Maybe you should go and watch them play some time against the best in the country during aau season. And watch as they not only compete against the best but also win games against the best in the country then maybe you would get a clue but until then just keep trying your best to put the kids down they love hearing from people who know it all but really know nothing at all.

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  75. So again 3:59 what D1 colleges are looking to give the Milford players a scholarship to play for them?? Just say who they are and we can end the discussion.

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  76. Any HS player in order to make a D1 roster would have to in the consensus top 1 to 3 percent of all graduating HS senior players in America. That is a tall order and there are many seriously talented and gifted ballplayers who fall short of that. I think some of our posters have lost sight of that fact.

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